Uh-Oh!....... Opinion of the Day Question

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Permalink Reply by skisteamboat on December 11, 2008 at 7:58am

One that causes a lot of OH S*** is Tomahawk, especially after the push piles get built up later in the morning/day and traffic is heavier. There is one place near the start that is steeper than the rest of the trail and causes some fast heart beats. If you are a Level 5, it should not be a problem. If it is, there is a cut off that takes you around that section. All of the Sunshine Peak trails have at least one steeper section that should be well within in your limits since the rest of the trail is basically a green.

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Permalink Reply by skiwoods on December 11, 2008 at 7:58am

Simply put, no.

IMO the only blue runs that get "bad" are Vagabond and Heavenly Daze after a day of abuse. Both get heavy traffic and some ice and crud that can make them a little challenging. All the easy blues in Wally World provide no "uh-ohs".

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Permalink Reply by mTnsmith on December 11, 2008 at 8:12am

I concur with Skiwoods.

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Permalink Reply by James on December 11, 2008 at 10:32am

Ditto.

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Permalink Reply by trudeska on December 11, 2008 at 8:15am

IMHO...

#1 Don't let anyone tell you Lower High Noon is a comfortable blue. It's a high traffic run that gets all carved up by midday. I hate it. Even when I was at your level I remember clearly that I opted to take Westside slow (black) or Broadway fast (green) than go down Lower High Noon.

#2 Tornado Lane is not green/blue but sometimes people try it after Buddy's Run. As the name implies it is narrow (not good for traversing when you are scared) and has always been icy when I've been on it.

#3 Stay to skier's right where Sunshine Lift Line opens up. Last year skier's left was all bumps and tight rollers nearer the end. I saw more than one person be surprised and find themselves with a yard sale after catching unintentional big air. One other thing, this run is great but it is directly under the lift. That can give some people stage fright when they are just learning to challenge themselves.

Finally, I asked my kids and they said that Eagle's Nest was scary the first time because they picked up speed quickly (it's steeper but short). They are in the 5+ range. It's fairly open though so you just take a little wider traverse the first few times. It has an uh-oh factor because once you head over to Eagles Nest there's no other way out but black. But you have to do Eagles Nest to efficiently utilize the mountain and avoid the roads. Most of the greens at Steamboat flatten out and can be exhausting trying to navigate. Why Not at the end where it becomes Right of Way resembles a trans Siberian hike with all the newbie skiers all hunched over attempting to pole and skate their way across to find even the slightest grade. You'll have to do it once since this is your first time out but in my opinion it is so not worth it. That's why you need Eagles Nest.

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Permalink Reply by KevinH on December 11, 2008 at 8:37am

Doesn't Eagles Nest lead to greens at the end?

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Permalink Reply by trudeska on December 11, 2008 at 9:36am

Yes. That's why it's totally doable even for a 4. It's just a short slightly steeper pitch to easy greens. I guess I should have said you need Eagles Nest to avoid Right of Way.

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Permalink Reply by Kup on December 11, 2008 at 8:24am

wow! great info. and thanks for the detail Trudeska! I have a trail map in front of me, but cant find half of these. I'll have to open up the trail map on line so these can be pointed out to me. How you guys remember all this stuff truly amazes me!!!.

Here's anothe stupid part of the question: on the trail map,some of the tail areas are not just while, but are tinted blueish. does this mean ice or something? its not listed on the legend.
Kup

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Permalink Reply by skiwoods on December 11, 2008 at 8:40am

I think the blue tinting is just artistic freedom to show depth. Hint; I have the main website's zoomify map up while answering questions about the mountain.

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Permalink Reply by trudeska on December 11, 2008 at 9:37am

I have last year's map laminated flat so my kids can reference it over and over.

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Permalink Reply by Andy Jehn Kennedy on December 11, 2008 at 1:10pm

Map suggestion: bring the grooming report up with you, it's smaller and easy to carry.

Additional Trail UH-OHS not mentioned: Sunset is a blue black and can drop into Lights Out if you're not paying attention so can Rainbow- bottom of Rainbow can be like bottom of High Noon if it's skied off, but worse. Drops off into a pretty steep pitch that used to make my stomach drop out.
Which leads me to Drop Out, Buddy's is nice, until you take it all the way to bottom and oops yourself right into Drop Out. Without snow, any direction at the bottom of Buddys is dicey... as mentioned with Tornado Lane above. Also not a big fan of Longhorn, P-Ridge can get chewed up quick...
And I agree with Skiwoods et.al. above that nowhere in Wally World can you get in a tough spot unless you wind up on a bumpy tracked-out version of Ramrod, that run will toss you if it's not been groomed but has been skied off after a few days of powder.
-AJ

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Permalink Reply by KCSki on December 17, 2008 at 10:47am

Sorry guys but what's " Wally World" or should I say Where is Wally World?

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